OrderWise Reviews

2.8

40% would recommend to a friend

(59 total reviews)

David Hallam

45% approve of CEO

38% positive business outlook

OrderWise has an employee rating of 2.8 out of 5 stars, based on 59 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have an average working experience there. The OrderWise employee rating is 27% below average for employers within the Information Technology industry (3.9 stars).

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59 reviews
1.0
11 Nov 2021

Dictatorship

Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Flexibility. I was offered so much flexibility to work around my children which was incredible.

Cons

Extensive workloads. Managing the employee life cycle as a standalone was exhausting. When asked for help was told I was not prioritising workloads correctly. I have records of excessive hours worked. The micromanagement at all levels of this organisation is shocking, as a HR Manager I was unable to send a Company wide email without this being subject to meticulous scrutiny. However, only select staff had the privilege of being trusted to have the functionality to send Company Wide emails anyway. Retention and turnover rate is exceptionally high. In some departments this exceeds 100%, yet the fundamental and obviously glaring reasons are ignored - continually and contracting employees in with a very clever "agreement" is the only way to retain staff. The salary. Initially benchmarked 40% lower than the comparative roles. A huge lack of confidentiality, having worked in HR and knowing the complexity of issues and the need for confidentiality a fundamental to the role. Anger directed at me for not sharing sources. I came in to add real value and benefit, but no decision was mine and I was forced to operate as a puppet to the CEO, to enable everything to come from HR adds an element of care and People orientated decision making, when this was beyond truthful, ordering and implementing irrational changes. Progression throughout the Organisation was very bizarre. A high number of staff are denied progression despite some reviews claiming this to be readily available. Some Managers were incredible, others were questionable and seem to influence the CEO in some awful decisions. Where leadership skills are lacking they seem to be replaced with heavy micro-management, going through emails, monitoring time and performance (understandably the latter), but leading, listening, supporting and championing of staff was unknown. A lack of trust echos throughout the business. AT ALL LEVELS. If working from home it was assumed staff would be watching TV, searching for new jobs or shopping - shows a fundamental lack of trust between SMT and staff. The offering of some remote work is a very reluctant one. SALARY - Negative, irrational and chaotic with VAST variance between individuals DOING THE SAME ROLE. I was subject to a very unorthodox gaslighting incident whereby an error occurring prior to me joining the Company was knowingly forced upon me as my own (I have visual proof if you wish to try and claim any falsifying here). Messages that followed were abusive of power and coercion in an attempt to force me to work under the assumption I had made a very VAST mistake (bullying/harassment). I joined the Company excited to try and aid the vast issues and support all employees. It was not possible, the HR Manager role was merely there to communicate Business decisions that would benefit the Company. When you had time between the revolving door of staff and the administrative flood that accompanied (remember I was not prioritising my workload though). I ended up needing time off from the stress this role provided, this was kindly communicated to the entire Company in a very nice email too. As someone who can operate under high levels of stress this was not something I have ever needed to do. Upon my return to handover work, having secured a new role, I contacted some key staff members to offer advice and guidance and alert them to contact their LM with issues to avoid things falling between two HR Managers. My emails were blocked and my exit from the Company remained to be a secret. There are some incredibly talented individuals at this Company, some wonderful and lovely people who deserve an organisation that truly champions their needs. OrderWise is not it and without some huge board level changes, it never will be. Someone will be tasked to discredit the above content and to "make me look stupid" as is generally the rule with negative Glassdoor reviews. Nothing within this review is false (except the imminent good review to counteract this ones score).

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OrderWise Response
4y
A response from the OrderWise Founder and CEO David Hallam: I think on this occasion it would be relevant for me, as the CEO and hiring manager, to reply to these comments. It’s not something I relish to do in the public eye but I feel the comments that have been made deserve a direct and honest reply. This person was employed by the Company for about four months and sadly they consistently struggled. This role was a big step up for this person and, clearly, a far too bigger step for them to cope with, despite high levels of support. I do have to accept responsibility for appointing this person into a role that simply was not right for them. I’m a reasonable judge of character and have employed many people who have gone on to have remarkable careers with us but, whilst I may have people’s best interests at heart and want the best for everyone, sometimes I get this wrong. I genuinely believed at the time of their appointment that their newly gained theoretical qualifications in HR would work well combined with the Company’s practical HR experience. I do feel that we went above and beyond to support this person in their role and to try and make it a success. On top of daily catch ups we had regular weekly meetings to ensure a dedicated period of time was always available to discuss any issues every week, if it couldn’t be dealt with through our daily communications. Sadly I see this has been seen as overbearing micro management, however this was never fed back to me at the time when I was simply trying to support this person to grow into their role with us. Unfortunately this person joined an office based role without fully considering all aspects of their family life, which became challenging for them when they realised they couldn’t financially manage their child care. We tried to do our best for the individual, by enabling them to work almost permanently from home, which in hindsight was not the right approach for someone who lacked significant practical experience. This is not the normal approach we would take for new starters as they start their journey with us – however I wanted to be supportive and flexible. I believe this situation accentuated issues in the individual’s ability to perform their role, as they were unable to interact with and learn from peers on a structured, daily basis and struggled to manage their own workload as a result of increasingly erratic working hours, at their own request. Beyond this it also became quite evident that this person struggled to manage priorities, despite being given direction on a weekly basis. As a fast growing company, we needed some real focus on the core foundations that I’d have expected a HR manager to bring to our organisation – however there was a consistent focus on areas that, whilst I accept would have been a focus in the future, in the short to medium delivered no value to the business or the people that work here and who needed support. Overall I felt that this person struggled with workload due to their own lack of prioritisation as well as not being prepared for the challenges of balancing their professional and personal life, which ultimately we all need to be able to do. As a result of concerns over performance and general understanding of our people, it is correct that I would not allow them to communicate directly with all colleagues by email. This was simply because sending an email to over 200 colleagues requires great care and attention and ultimately a better understanding of our organisation, which at the time I felt was lacking. No business owner or manager wants to see people leave a role in their probation period – particularly during a time where recruitment is fiercely competitive. Sadly this person made two key errors that would ordinarily have required a disciplinary process to be followed. When I outlined these issues to this person there was a lack of ownership over these errors and no desire to learn, grow and improve from this situation. What I do expect from my management team is that mistakes are acknowledged, an apology be made where necessary, and our processes improved to ensure these mistakes don’t happen again. In the absence of this, I accepted this person’s resignation to avoid a disciplinary process starting and to give them the best possible chance of securing a new role in the future. In regards to this person’s comment about internal promotions – we have so many great success stories of how people have been supported to develop and achieve promotion and career progression at OrderWise – most of our management team are here as a result of this approach, rather than focusing on external hires. The challenge for me as a business owner and manager is that sadly sometimes just because a person is amazing at their current position or has been in that position the longest, it does not always make that person suitable for the next position above them. I can guarantee that if the right role is available for the right person I would move heaven and earth to get them into that position. As a company we will move on and find someone more suited for this role and I personally will learn from this experience, as we all need to do when things don’t work out as you’d have hoped. I wish this person well in their future career and whilst I have obviously had to reply to give a balanced view on this review and highlight why I believe things did not work out, I would like to say that this person was very friendly, smart and always tried to help others – which I thought were their key strengths.
1.0
10 Dec 2021
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

- Some very nice staff - Flexi-time - Cafe

Cons

- Poor management I worked hard for this company, over the course of 7 years-plus. Most of the managers I had (bar the good ones who left) were essentially a mouthpiece for the company, armed with tools and procedures to keep tabs on whatever you were doing, at all times. The clocking system is to-the-second and although it is useful in a fire situation and helps calculate built-up flexi-time, it was also designed in such a way that staying behind for (e.g.) 10 minutes wasn't accumulated in your favour but being 1 minute late for work WAS owed back to the company. I think that speaks for itself. - Toxic work environment The MD and certain other managers would sometimes use expletives, loudly, to get their point across, as well as in e-mails (of which I have copies). Criticism or suggestions (however constructive) were largely not taken on board and certain contractual things (such as an overt lack of clarity around inventions clauses and restrictive covenants) left a bad taste in my mouth, not to mention the fact that you're expected to pay back the training costs for teaching you how to use the software (up to a year after you leave, and you only find this out on the first day when you get your new contract). - Micromanagement There was no trust in staff and this showed! Constant micromanagement instead of letting staff just do their jobs was one of the reasons I left. If one member of staff broke the rules ( egregious at times, granted), it would often be to the detriment of the entire company in the form of rule/procedural changes. Appraisals had to be asked for. One management strategy, which I saw used against other members of staff as well as myself, was to ask loudly, in a room full of people, why something wasn't exactly as the manager expected it, like a child being told off by a teacher with anger-management issues. - Poor pay Pay is poor. Whilst working there, people left what would be considered as a skilled 'career' job, to work in shops for more money but without the responsibility, stress and lack of recognition for hard work. When some staff left, the company were suddenly able to find the extra salary to keep said staff. - Lack of career progression I expressed interest in other areas of the business on more than one occasion and my only ‘progression’ move within the business wasn’t one I requested and was done so on the instruction of management and I was made to feel like I didn't have a choice at the time - it didn’t turn out to be a progression either. The interest I actually expressed in departmental moves fell on deaf ears and nothing ever came of it. If (as has been implied by some of the obsequious responses to the negative reviews - everybody has the right to be heard - that's why platforms like this exist) the lack of career progression was down to a lack of ability or performance on my part, then it was certainly never communicated to me, verbally, via e-mail or through any disciplinary mechanism. My formal disciplinary record whilst employed here was spotless, despite some of the language used in some of the e-mails I received.

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OrderWise Response
4y
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a comprehensive review. It’s certainly disappointing to receive such feedback when we are genuinely working so hard to provide a first-class employee experience here at OrderWise. We are constantly looking at how we can improve – and we’re not afraid to make changes where they are required. It’s not clear from your review when you were employed at OrderWise, but we’re confident that some of the aspects you’ve raised here will have already been addressed. That said, there are also certain points within your feedback that simply don’t reflect the majority view of our 200+ team members. To address some of your specific comments: We are extremely proud of our management team and what they are achieving for the business. They are fundamental in supporting our colleagues and helping them to be successful. They are equipped with what they need to accomplish their aims – and as a business we have to be accountable for our actions and our service levels. A manager’s job is ensuring their teams achieve their targets and objectives. Where policies and procedures are introduced, there’s a reason for this – it’s to protect the business, and in turn our colleagues. This is standard business practice. Thank you for highlighting our flexi-time perk – it’s something which has received extremely positive feedback following its introduction. We’ve managed this through an in-house application, which was certainly not to be designed to be malicious. You’re right – time worked is calculated, the primary purpose being to enable flexibility for our colleagues. It allows them to work their hours at the times which suit them – be it around the school run, avoiding peak commuting times, exercise or any other such important aspect of everyday life. We have taken onboard your alleged concerns regarding offensive language in the workplace. Relating to your earlier comment, this is exactly where a policy/process review and update may well come into effect to address this. Training cost clauses are again an industry-standard practice. Despite your views to the contrary, salaries remain competitive for the region and the sectors in which we operate. They are also constantly reviewed and improved upon – for example, we have just rolled out a brand-new bonus scheme for our Technical Support department. If you have a change of heart and would like to get in touch, we will always welcome further feedback. You can reach us at internal.improvement@orderwise.co.uk.
1.0
16 Nov 2021

Avoid if you value your mental health - read before applying!

Anonymous employee
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

There are some hard working andtalented staff at the bottom of the ladder who deserve to be properly looked after.

Cons

David has consistently been given the same negative feedback of poor management and severe neglect of staff well-being.. and still nothing has changed in the company. His ego has maintained that the people who have quit are always wrong, despite years of causing serious mental health problems and destroying the confidence of dedicated workers. I would be very wary of the positive reviews for this company, many are all too similarly written and not accurate at all. The recent negative reviews resonates almost exactly true with my experiences at the company despite leaving a few years ago. The responses to these also blame the employee over and over again rather than taking onboard the feedback. I know of many, many others who also were forced to leave because of unfair conditions David STILL puts his staff through. The fact he has turns the blame on a single employee really shows his true colours and would suggest to me that the reviews are accurate! The company has failed to grow from a start up successfully and David has evidently missed key opportunities to invest in his management and staff as they grew to a team of 200. They have lost some extremely talented staff across all departments for this reason yet claim them as their ‘success stories’ who have since moved on. My experience of OrderWise was distressing to say the least. I often put in extra hours but was consistently paid significantly less to those equal to me. I witnessed first-hand 4 or 5 serious cases of mental health issues caused directly by the company in which the employees had to take time off sick. It was common knowledge that you could not confide in HR or management without others knowing your problems and senior management would regularly speak in vulgar language about staff who were beneath them. Never in my life have I heard anyone in a company speak the way David once spoke about an employee because he guessed an anonymous complaint about low pay was supposedly by this person. No proof, just disgusting language at this poor employee behind their back - a very regular and distressing occurrence at OrderWise. If the company had seen as many physical illnesses caused by their conditions as what they have done to people’s mental health, there is no doubt it would be under investigation. That is without even starting to question their ethical values in partnering with Overseas companies (cannot post this review if I name any names). I’d suggest a little research into this before ever applying to join the company.

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OrderWise Response
4y
Thank you for taking the time to leave your review. We’re saddened to hear that you feel your experience working with us was a negative one. There are many initiatives in place across our business designed to acknowledge and recognise our colleagues, including regular 1-1 meetings, development plans and appraisals. Many of our senior management team have progressed through the organisation, and we have several employees who’ve been with us for five years or more. In all teams there are talented and hard-working individuals driving OrderWise forward, and we know they are our greatest resource. Our employee community is the reason for our continued expansion and success – and, while we acknowledge your comments, we must wholeheartedly disagree with your point that we’ve not ‘grown successfully’ in our 30+ years providing market-leading software solutions to thousands of customers. Your references relating to individuals causing others ‘serious mental health problems’ are concerning. We’re absolutely committed to the positive wellbeing of our colleagues and treat your claims with the utmost seriousness. However, to the best of our knowledge they are unfounded – and do not reflect the views and feedback of our 200+ employees. This is a hugely important and sensitive topic for our business and its leaders, which is why we provide access to mental health services as one of our many employment benefits . With regards our ‘ethical values’, we take great pride in our approach and efforts. Over our three decades in business, we have supported numerous causes and given back to the communities in which we operate. We have various accreditations and have won several industry awards – accolades which are based on our robust diligence in line with our company values to always act with responsibility and integrity. If you have any further suggestions on these subjects, we encourage you to get in touch with us via internalimprovement@orderwise.co.uk so we can discuss in more detail. We thank you again for your review and wish you all the best with your future career.
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