I love working in EY Tax - Anonymous employee EY Employee Review

4.0
23 Mar 2009
Anonymous employee
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Pros

The best reasons for me are three: great training, great reputation and great diversity. I LOVE the EY continuing education and training seminars. They are practical, useful and well-delivered. I have learnt more from them than I did in graduate school. I think the effort to educate employees shows that the company really is interested in its employees. The next good point: reputation. EY is an established firm. People respect us in the accounting and tax fields and, no, the firm is not part of any sort of semi-legal Wall Street type scheme! Finally, I really like the fact that I work with people from all classes and backgrounds: Asian, Black, Hispanic, Indian, White, and recent immigrants, too. The place fosters respect for all of these groups just by virtue of having them there: it would be hard to work with someone if you don't value and respect their culture and their worldview. This doesn't mean that you become best friends but you have a decent level of cultural awareness. Now is the time to point out that there may be differences between the Tax and Audit departments at the firm in terms of the work hours and the overall treatment of staff members. Audit is very stressful and demanding and some of the partners are just too stressed and burnt out to realize that they miss on simple human things like greeting you in the elevator. You have to give them credit for trying, though. Another thing to point out is that EY makes great efforts to get involved in charity work. I respect and admire that. Let me say a couple of words about working in a cubicle: it is not bad at all. People respect your privacy despite the fact that you have no office space and you do get plenty of room for your personal items and for many of the work-related manuals and training materials which you want to keep because, they are GREAT. Also, the tech support from the the team that assists with your laptop will always be adequate and timely. My impression of a couple of EY offices that I have visited is that they are nicely furnished and comfortable and many have large windows. In general, most people at EY work very hard to make the money they get. With limited exceptions, people are not arrogant and you would not encounter the type of (pardon my French) jerks that frequent the investment banking and law firm world (believe me, I have been to those worlds as well, and I am not speaking out of malice, just based on experience). I see myself working for the firm for at least a decade. :-)

Cons

I have a JD degree and for me the major downside is COMPENSATION. I would have been paid better at a law firm but I do not work crazy hours at EY. Another downside is that some people at the firm are extremely competitive which prevents them from forming normal human relationships with others. You will find that these are usually seniors and senior managers going crazy about their life master plan to make partner. I have not risen to that level yet and I do not look forward to sharing responsibility with some of these folks. They need to come down to earth but I don't know whether they would or how. Another downside is the stiff dress up code. Someone somewhere invented the myth that women look more professional with straight hair and that we should all wear gray and black all day. Yes, there are people who go astray and there are other people who have the time and the malice to watch them and to report them to senior management. So, just buy 5 gray suits and ignore this. This will change as the world becomes more open and diverse. It really is not a big deal if you demonstrate an effort to comply with specific expectations. The final downside I can think of is the issue of "being green" and not wasting paper. The management is making an effort to foster a paperless environment but so far, success is somewhat limited. You will never have to print as many things in your whole life probably as you do during one work week at EY. I must admit that this makes me sad sometimes and that I am a culprit myself.

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1. You will have a very hard time not falling in love with every single person you meet there. 2. Seriously, you will meet your soul mate(s) there. 3. Prestigious and looks great on the resume. 4. Your brain will grow a thousand times more powerful. 5. Forces you to conquer your fear of public speaking. 6. Fun team bonding and lifelong friends. 7. Stepping stone to high paying jobs. 8. Helps you work on perfecting your charm. You will learn from the most charming people how to really get people to like you. 9. HR really cares. 10. Big support network (IT, creative services, etc.). 11. Teaches you to be calm and in control.

Cons

OK, I'm going to be discussing all the taboo things, and there are a lot of them. In spite of these cons, I still admit it's worth a five star rating. 1. High performers are "designated" (you have very little control over your rating) by the partner group (can be a pro if you get selected. Seriously, I have worked with some of the supposed "fives" and they are not any different than my threes and fours. 2. Quality is extremely low. Sometimes I felt like I was working at McDonalds and not a professional services firm. The emphasis is on getting through work as fast as possible and expectations for quality are not realistic. 3. EY has a very hard time firing bad employees. If you get stuck with one it can be a nightmare. 4. EY has a heavy emphasis on wasting time. For example, there are lots and lots of checklists which have no value that you have to fill out. Also, they wasted money and time on creating "Canvas" which is literally slower and more awkward than the previous workspace tool, GAMX. There is a heavy emphasis on "reinventing the wheel" and fixing problems that aren't broken with even worse solutions. Instead of wasting money on useless tools, that money could have been spent on your employees in the form of compensation. Like I said, EY is really focused on attempting to look as though value is being created when in fact it is not. 5. Lots of meetings. Appearances are very important. 6. Employees on global 360 accounts get better treatment. 7. Some employees (executives mostly) tend to overemphasize how important this work is. Let's face it, if it was really glorious work then we would have action figures. 8. Looks are very important. Seriously, if you are a girl, you will get promoted based on how hot you are (the quality of your work is largely unimportant). If you are a guy, you are treated a little better but there is still a sexist undercurrent in the environment. This is advice you won't get from HR obviously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. 8. You will be forced to eat hours. 9. Your ethical compass will start to get weaker. 10. You will get a little cynical. 11. Lots of driving and travel. 12. "Family men" and married couples with children are more likely to be promoted. If you want to be a partner, you have to be married (few exceptions). 13. You will work on vacations. 14. Loss of relationships with family and friends. 15. Some backstabbing and credit-stealing (but not very common). 16. Comp is below market but that's to be expected. 17. Employee retention is not something management is interested in. This makes you replaceable and expendable (yes even as a manager, unless you have been "designated" as a high performer by the partner group).

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